The front part of the Kerker 6:1 header is actually a DG unit,the DG pipes are still available,I just ordered one from Dennis Kirk for about 4 & a quarter,shipping free.
I have absolutely no experience with the Kerker. Is it a header with a slip-on-muffler, like their Supertrapps? And is the header a DG part or identical to that? How does the whole thing from Tim's compare pricewise with a complete DG and is the $425.- for the complete DG?
The Kerker 6:1 listed in the Tims catalogue for $595.00 and the DG system was listed at $395.00,yes,the $425.00 I mentioned was what I paid out the door for my DG system,waiting for shipment on that.The silencer on the Kerker system just goes right on the front half of the exhaust,as does the DG system.
Be careful with the D&G. I went through 2 sets that I could not get the pipes to fit in the collector.The first set only let 2 fit and the second set was even worse it wouldn't fit ANY. It would have taken grinding ALL the chrome off the ends to get them to slide in.
My spare set of pipes is the TIMS (Kerker) 6 into 1 comp setup with the small end plate which I'm told is really the DG with a Kerker can on it. To install, you have to mount 1, 2, 3 and 6, put the can on and tighten things up, then remove 6 and then install 4, 5 and 6 again. After about three-four tries, it worked! Sounds great (really great) but the left side of the bike looks bare. If I could get that sound from one pipe on each side, I would be very interested.
O.K., let's try this again. I am a little confused with the terminology here:
Header: Exhaust pipe from cylinder head to Collector
Collector: Reducer piece from 2 into 1, 3 into 1 etc, connecting header
and muffler, sometimes part of either
Muffler (silencer): Can containing baffles or packing, slips on connector
The stock CBx exhaust is all one piece on each side, except for the No2 and No5 header pipe.
What is the Kerker 6:1 from Tim's? Does it come complete? Do you have to buy a DG header? Or do you have to CUT your stock exhaust and use your own headers????
On page 4 of TIMS catalog there is a set of pipes at the top of the page called the Kerker 6:1 competition exhaust. That's what I have as an extra set of pipes. part# EXH 264. The "can" I mentioned is the muffler (and) the collector piece. The six pipes are individual pieces. Like I said, I've been told that the six individual pipes are DG, and maybe? the collector piece, but the muffler is Kerker. On the same page is a set of DG pipes that appear to be a single unit, advertised as a "street exhaust". TIMS doesn't mention the individual pipes as being DG units but most everyone I run into with an opinion says they are.
I received the catalogue about 2 weeks ago and sent them an email requesting price information on the 17th. Earlier this week I left a voice message and to date no reply!?
I'm going to get me one of those S. African all SS 6-6 pipes when my ship comes in. Was informed they are better quality than Pipemasters 6-6. Anybody have an opinion in comparing those 6-6 systems?
75 Kawa F7, 71 CB500-4, 79 750F, 82 750 Sabre, 83 Suzuki XN85 TURBO, 81 CBX, 69 CB750 X 14 (like those old Honda's a little)
All you gotta do is loosen the axle nut,tensioners,and flip the tensioners down,then pull the chain adjuster stoppers out of the swingarm after disconnecting the brake anchor arm and the whole mess should roll out the back without too much trouble.Works great!
-----Yes,the wheel should come right out if you cock it a bit sideways on the way out,it should still clear any pipes,etc.,I am able to get out the 6"wide tire on the turbo bike with no problems at all.
I am based in Cape Town, South Africa and have used a lot of the powerflow stainless pipes's. They make a six into six as per the picture that Don has shown which I took at the springbok rally in 2002 and that bike won the concorse. Further they make a nice standard system copy as per photo of the A that I have just completed. There are two way's that the system is supplied. Either as the three headers into a collector and then a separate silencer or as a seperate silenser colector in one and loose header's. The reason for the socound option is if you sill have good original header's they can still be used. I can have never had a problem with these pipes. For any further pic's mail me on ltc@inds-ct.co.za.