Alternator spring, coupling plates
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Alternator spring, coupling plates
I am in the process of restoring my 1979 CBX. I am currently working on the alternator and have a few questions. The coupling spring length is 24.75mm can this be used with shimming or do I need to look for a spring closer the original length of 31mm? When I disassembled the alternator I found there was only one thrust washer between the spring and the coupling plate. What kind of material is the missing washer (part # 90466-422-000) made of? Could the washer be made from Delrin? If so, what is the thickness of the missing washer?
Thanks,
Steve
Thanks,
Steve
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Re: Alternator spring, coupling plates
24.75 sounds VERY small.
Good info here on plates, washers.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=11726&p=95807&hili ... her#p95807
Welcome to the site.
Good info here on plates, washers.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=11726&p=95807&hili ... her#p95807
Welcome to the site.
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Re: Alternator spring, coupling plates
Steve, I have to agree. This seems to be more than a spring would set. Maybe it is a non-original spring or it was cut.
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Re: Alternator spring, coupling plates
The spring is way too short. If there is evidence of bluing, the spring got overheated and sacked out. You need a replacement spring for sure. Normal sag is a mm or so. You are missing the thick fiber washer, maybe 2mm thick. You need that also, then maybe another steel one to add as a shim. Your clutch plates can't look too good either? Those need addressed, plus new bearings, seal and shaft o-ring. Check the slip ring resistance, it should be close to 4 ohm. Also make sure the red plug hasn't overheated.
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Re: Alternator spring, coupling plates
Dave,
Thanks for the info.
I will try to find a spring closer to 31mm as they were new. If I can not find an exact replacement for the 2mm fiber washer can I make a replacement from a material like Delrin?
I will shim as needed and set the preload as explained by Mike Nixon in his CBX Alternator article. The coupling plates do show grooving. I am going to have them resurfaced like Nils at RetoCycles shows in his video. I have new bearings, seals and o-ring. Slip ring resistance is 4 ohms. The red connector plug was melted. The PO bypassed it with spade connectors. I have sourced a new plug and connectors from Vintage Connections.
Steve
Thanks for the info.
I will try to find a spring closer to 31mm as they were new. If I can not find an exact replacement for the 2mm fiber washer can I make a replacement from a material like Delrin?
I will shim as needed and set the preload as explained by Mike Nixon in his CBX Alternator article. The coupling plates do show grooving. I am going to have them resurfaced like Nils at RetoCycles shows in his video. I have new bearings, seals and o-ring. Slip ring resistance is 4 ohms. The red connector plug was melted. The PO bypassed it with spade connectors. I have sourced a new plug and connectors from Vintage Connections.
Steve
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Re: Alternator spring, coupling plates
Sounds like you're on the right track. Lots of fiber washers around. Contact Tevan (Terry) here or Louis.
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Re: Alternator spring, coupling plates
If you don't work on a "original showroom" restoration with all original parts to sell the bike on BaT, you can save yourself a lot of current and future trouble and headache by investing in an alternator conversion. The project uses more modern Kawasaki alternators with integrated regulators and modified drive. They still pop up ever so often on ebay or you can contact JR Luksik from CBXtra or Bill Brint at Tim's directly
https://www.ebay.com/itm/honda-cbx-1000 ... SwJ3te9KHO
Or maybe a member here has one for sale.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/honda-cbx-1000 ... SwJ3te9KHO
Or maybe a member here has one for sale.
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Re: Alternator spring, coupling plates
I don't plan on making this CBX an extremely high end restoration but I would like to keep it as original as possible. I will try to get the stock alternator charging at an acceptable level. I do however appreciate other opinions. Thanks.
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Re: Alternator spring, coupling plates
Converting to LEDs will go a long way to help your alternator charge at an acceptable level. LEDs reduce the electrical load of the lights from around 100 watts to 20-25 watts.
http://www.cbxclub.com/forum/viewtopic ... 21&t=11771
http://www.cbxclub.com/forum/viewtopic ... 21&t=11771
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Re: Alternator spring, coupling plates
Joe, Thanks for the heads up regarding LED's. I plan on ordering the lights you recommend.
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Re: Alternator spring, coupling plates
Steve, Make sure you get the headlight hondaman160 recommended or something similar. The one I used will work in a pro-link, but not a twin-shock.
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