EMS wrote:Randall: I like your approach. Very well put. Short, and, I must say, more convincing than anything else.
Mike Cecchini wrote:EMS wrote:Randall: I like your approach. Very well put. Short, and, I must say, more convincing than anything else.
Yeah...... I hear you Mike. Some just want a simple ''yes'' or ''no'' answer to things in life, the rest of us want to learn things as we go through life.
EMS wrote:Mike Cecchini wrote:EMS wrote:Randall: I like your approach. Very well put.
Short, and, I must say, more convincing than anything else.
Yeah...... I hear you Mike. Some just want a simple ''yes'' or ''no'' answer to things in life, the
rest of us want to learn things as we go through life.
No, Mike, it is not about "yes" or "no". It is about facts and how you work with them. People have
different ways to accept and work with facts. And yours is not the only way. And for some it is
debatable whether yours is the right way.
You have a problem accepting this and this is why you keep hammering home your position over and
over and over to the point where you offend those who have a different opinion.
The collective and individual knowledge on this forum here is substantial and extensive. Many
members are also members of other (motorcycle-) forums and can draw from the combined knowledge.
Some may know a little more than others, but mostly the people participating in this forum don't
follow one preacher blindly and get all excited and wet in the armpits when Mike Cecchini makes a
post and shares his ultimate wisdom.
daves79x wrote:None of the doom and gloom you predict with DOT 3 & 4 brake fluid will happen either if it is changed at least every 2 years. My '79 has never had either front or rear brake system apart and after 30 years, still has killer brakes for a CBX. And it sits for LONG periods of time.
Don wrote: I'm sure Mike C regards Mike Nixon's words about as close to 'fact' as we're likely to find,
Re: Brake Fluid
by Mike Cecchini » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:34 am
Mike Nixon wrote:
<snip> The bottom line is this -- glycol fluid, though technically a less performing variety, is far more consumer friendly. Silicone fluid is not at all consumer friendly, and you MUST change it often for it to be safe and to avoid maintenance issues, whereas as I say, glycol can be neglected indefinitely (it plainly is in the most cases), with no devastating effects. Interestingly, the issue is no longer which is more fade-resistant, as the newest glycol fluids perform as well temperature-wise as the glycols.
Gycol brake fluid is "consumer friendly" ?? You mean that stuff that eats paint and holds water + brake fluid that makes that white caustic foam is "consumer freindly" ???
DOT 5 does none of this. You can pour it on your paint and leave it there...... no problem.
DOT 5 dosen't combine with water to form any cuastic foam.
DOT 5 dosen't have to be changed more often than gylocol fluid.... just the opposite...... DOT 5 lasts 3x--5x longer than glycol brake fluid.
DOT 5 is THE consumer friendly brake fluid.......not DOT 3 & 4.
Glycol (DOT 3 & 4) can't be "neglected indefinitely".......this is why DOT 3 & 4 is suppose to be changed out every 2 yrs. DOT 5 is 5--10 yrs. It's not what you ride.....it's how you ride.
Rick Pope wrote: Well said Nils.
I've taken the approach that if someone posts opposite thoughts to what I feel true, well, they're entitled to their opinions. I can choose to ignore it.
If they post the same drivel over and over, they lose credibility, as though they're trying to validate themselves in the face of contrary evidence.
FWIW, we have a '47 and '49 International trucks, both with DOT3 fluid, and neither has EVER had the fluid changed. Both stop nicely.
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