RATS !!!!

[bikeymikey748]

Oh, and it just gets better....
Seems its more along the lines I mentioned, govt. bias/anti-motorcycle legislation and all that. More than a simple generation of revenues.
I took a ride to a local Surete du Quebec (SQ:provincial police...think of them as State Tropper equivalents) post today. I explained that I just received a ticket regarding my exhaust and asked if they had the equipement for,or knew where I could go to get a sound check done. I wanted to be certain of just where I stood, within the limits or how far out of them.
Two officers followed me outside to first have a look-see. It didn't go we'll.
The long and the short of it is I had two choices. #1: keep the bike absolutely stock, as though it had just rolled off the assembly line. #2: install an aftermarket pipe with a catalytic converter
They explained that a sound check would be a waste of time, my pipe wouldn't be compliant even if it were whisper quiet. The new regulations state that motorcycles must adhere to, current, emission laws when an exhaust system is changed.
They further pointed out the lack of cross-overs on my system(!), stating that their omission also contributed an infringement. Huh, not all multi-cylinder bikes have these engineered as part of OEM parts. There was no debating the issue.
My bike is illegal, and can never be made legal ( even if somehow I could install a cat-equipped muffler) for road use in the province of Quebec. They said continued operation of the bike left me open for more citations, and in the event of a second citation being given by the same officer/detachment, towing and impound for demonstration of unwillingness to comply.
They warned that as my bike is heavily modified, it will draw unwanted attention from police forces in the province.
To my knowledge, only the motorcycling population is being singled out for this skewed initiative.
I am dumbfounded.

[gak1047]

Did they mention what ordinance they where refering to? I spent some time researching your post and could only find info regarding noise levels. I found nothing refering to replacement exhaust being required to be equiped with a catalyic converter.

[EMS]

Did they mention what ordinance they where refering to? I spent some time researching your post and could only find info regarding noise levels. I found nothing refering to replacement exhaust being required to be equiped with a catalyic converter.

He is in Canada, Greg!

[gak1047]

Yes, I am aware of that. The research I did was on recent motorcycle exhaust laws passed in Canada. As I said, I found a recent ordinance passed on noise levels, but none on replacemant motorcycle exhaust's needing to be equiped with a catalytic converter.

[bikeymikey748]

Yes, I am aware of that. The research I did was on recent motorcycle exhaust laws passed in Canada. As I said, I found a recent ordinance passed on noise levels, but none on replacemant motorcycle exhaust's needing to be equiped with a catalytic converter.

You have to look at the SAAQ site here in Quebec. They have few english translations ( don't get me started ) for most of the links I looked into.
Posting on popular sites hereabouts (M4E, for example) drew some good info. Seems emissions regulations are not within the provinces' domain of influence, but a federal one, for the moment at least. Apparently ( ? ), I was misinformed by the police I spoke with....cats are not an issue for the 'X'.
The consensus was that the month of May is open season on motorcyclists as police enforce registration and equipment checks, with vigor
Hopefully, official vigilance will wane in the near future, and I can roam with less of a feeling of impending confrontation.

[gak1047]

Don't feel as if you are the only one. I just read in my A.M.A. magazine that they have donated several sound testing kits to various motorcycle groups to help educate the motorcycling public on the loud exhaust issue. This can only mean that we in the states will be seeing something from the government along these same lines.

[EMS]

Don't feel as if you are the only one. I just read in my A.M.A. magazine that they have donated several sound testing kits to various motorcycle groups to help educate the motorcycling public on the loud exhaust issue. This can only mean that we in the states will be seeing something from the government along these same lines.

We already do. Depending in what State of the Union you are in. New Mexico has a law already that basically eliminates aftermarket exhausts unless they have an official stamp/mark certifying noise and emission levels.
Bad place to live for those who save lives on a daily basis with their loud exhausts....
...although, there is an alterantive:

[gak1047]

You may be on to something. If I replace my clutch with a Ducati clutch nobody will hear my exhaust. Problem solved!

[George R. Garrison #0857]

My 748's have loud clutch's and both have aftermarket under tail pipes and our registration in Delaware is under $20.00 per year.

Maybe a move from the Federation of Canada is in order?

[bikeymikey748]

What George, and give up all this ?



This is what faces me as I sit here, coffee in hand, and consider that I just dragged my tired butt along behind the snowblower the last 1 1/2hrs. digging out the car and helping some neighbours.
License fees and such ? I guess we all have our crosses to bear, no matter our location. There'll always be trade-offs. Generally, living here in Montreal, the pluses outweigh the negatives. But lately.......
I cringe at the thought of what new government initiatives await,next spring. Remember, this year's noise campaign was but the first of the three year plan.
In the last three years, we protested the increases to our registration fees. Weekly, our numbers mounted. Our method was to assemble in large numbers and, occupying the 'slow' lane on the highway, make our way to some government function ( conferences, casino openings....) and try to get our message across. We had great public support. We didn't try to impede anyone's progress on the roads, but attempted to get a dialogue going. Our organizers would only divulge the weekend's upcoming route at the last minute, to give the gov. limited reaction time. We'de get on the order of two thousand riders out, sometimes.








Things reached a head when the route was planned to loop, for the entire weekend, across the bridge that provided access to the F1 facilities. The gov. contacted the organizers, and promised that if we relented that they would enter into negotiations. The fees were dropped from $1,200.00 ( sport bikes over 400cc ) to $750.00 (ish).
One of the reasons that I abandoned my Duc was that it was on the sport bike list. The CBX, that snorting, six-cylinder BEAST, costs significantly less to plate. In fact, going by the gov.'s reasoning, it seems they prefer motorcyclists on these sorts of bikes

[bikeymikey748]

Oh and the final indignity? Apparently, here in Quebec, sending in a cheque as payment in full for your 'offence', is NOT seen as an admission of guilt. You MUST put an 'x' ( oh, the irony) in the appropriate box on the backside of the ticket.
I know this because I just got another request for $21.00 from the government because I failed to do so.
Merry Christmas to me

[steve murdoch icoa #5322]

And make sure when checking the admission of guilt box in that you don't go outside the lines.
I got a speeding ticket this summer that i wanted to contest. I sent the form in for "disclosure" of the officers notes. It took 3 attempts because they said i had not properly filled in the request box. I never was good at colouring inside the lines.