Larry I'm sure you're correct, my experience was when Stabil was the only game in town and there was no other competition like there is now.Larry Zimmer wrote:Yuo on the diese, Rick. If one is doing that length of storage, diesel or kerosene would be the way to go. And, ditto about disconnecting he fuel line!! Interesting experiences with Stabil, et al. I've had a bike sit two years with half a tank and double dose Stabil. Started and ran fine after about 3 seconds cranking. (Wasn't the CBX. Although, it will often sit with half tank for 6 months with no issue.) Not disputing other experiences. Just reporting my own experience. Definitely like Rick's idea the best.
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We all have our own recipes we swear by. Most based on experience. If I would store a bike for two years, I would first run gas with Startron through the carbs. Would then drain the tank and take it off (easy job on the CBX), spray some fogging oil into it and hang it up in a dry place (basement). Also spray fogging oil the the spark plug holes. I would NOT drain the carbs.
Most of the fuel additives - incl Stabil - now come in one version for stabilization and a different one for storage. There are also marine fuel treatments (Startron is one of them) which usually yield better results than automotive additives.
Storing a bike for two years is not the same as "winterizing" one and I think it would be worth going through a little effort to preserve the bike.
I wonder what the experts would say you should do with a set of carbs that sat dry on a shelf for two years....
Most of the fuel additives - incl Stabil - now come in one version for stabilization and a different one for storage. There are also marine fuel treatments (Startron is one of them) which usually yield better results than automotive additives.
Storing a bike for two years is not the same as "winterizing" one and I think it would be worth going through a little effort to preserve the bike.
I wonder what the experts would say you should do with a set of carbs that sat dry on a shelf for two years....
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Use aviation gas. I have been told it lasts a long time.
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Rick Pope wrote:The reason for having fuel in the tank is to prevent rust. Why use gasoline? Use something else. Diesel comes to mind. Just fill it, and disconnect your fuel line so you don't accidentally run it into the carbs.
+1 on the diesel. Keeps rubber wet (yes I let it go into the carbs...), keeps tanks rust-ree, just don't forget to drain it all out when recommissioning...
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A little update: I haven't even moved the bike from winter storage to long-term storage yet and I already miss it. Like, a lot. When that kid comes, he or she had better be super cute.
I'm gonna be able to ride the Ducati a bit, but when I think about the freakish wail of winding out the CBX, the thought of redline on the twin seems deeply unsatisfying. Oh well, having to rock a Ducati while your tricked-out vintage icon of a Honda sits in storage probably counts as a good problem.
I'm gonna be able to ride the Ducati a bit, but when I think about the freakish wail of winding out the CBX, the thought of redline on the twin seems deeply unsatisfying. Oh well, having to rock a Ducati while your tricked-out vintage icon of a Honda sits in storage probably counts as a good problem.
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I can relate to that 100%! my Z has been in the hospital since last september, I have the grampa gixer to ride but it just ain't the same. I was going to take part in the Distinguished Gentlemens Ride last year with the Z but when the engine imploded I lost the desire and didn't join in with the GSSyscrush wrote:A little update: I haven't even moved the bike from winter storage to long-term storage yet and I already miss it. Like, a lot. When that kid comes, he or she had better be super cute.
I'm gonna be able to ride the Ducati a bit, but when I think about the freakish wail of winding out the CBX, the thought of redline on the twin seems deeply unsatisfying. Oh well, having to rock a Ducati while your tricked-out vintage icon of a Honda sits in storage probably counts as a good problem.
Even now that spring weather has finally arrived and the roads are clear I still haven't fired up the GS.
I should have the Z's engine back this month
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A little update on the good end of this thing...
Baby Dawn was born a bit over a week ago, 7 lbs 10 oz, and she and her mom are a picture of health and happiness.
We were lucky with an easy delivery and a great experience overall. Thanks all for the kind and encouraging words since I shared this news.
The plan now with the CBX is to leave it parked this year and next. Conversion to EFI will hopefully start in the winter of 2019 after I get my bonus - I want to convert it before putting it back into regular service. Hopefully I'll be starting to ride it again before we're saying goodbye to 2020. Honestly, it's a tough decision, but it's the only one that makes sense given the realities of life with a 3 year old and a newborn, living in the core of a dense city with a short but packed commute and handling drop-off or pick-up at daycare.
Baby Dawn was born a bit over a week ago, 7 lbs 10 oz, and she and her mom are a picture of health and happiness.
We were lucky with an easy delivery and a great experience overall. Thanks all for the kind and encouraging words since I shared this news.
The plan now with the CBX is to leave it parked this year and next. Conversion to EFI will hopefully start in the winter of 2019 after I get my bonus - I want to convert it before putting it back into regular service. Hopefully I'll be starting to ride it again before we're saying goodbye to 2020. Honestly, it's a tough decision, but it's the only one that makes sense given the realities of life with a 3 year old and a newborn, living in the core of a dense city with a short but packed commute and handling drop-off or pick-up at daycare.
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Congratulations, Phil.
You should forget about the EFI and invest in a sidecar for your CBX.
A couple kids and some essentials would probably fit perfectly.
You should forget about the EFI and invest in a sidecar for your CBX.
A couple kids and some essentials would probably fit perfectly.
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Congrats Phil! You do indeed have other obligations now and for quite a while. I managed to keep my original '79 CBX through all that you are experiencing, so enjoy now what life has presented to you.
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Congratulations Phil from over the pond. Mel UK #1876
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Wow, that is great news Phil !! Congratulations
No sleep at your place for awhile .
Best,
Phil
No sleep at your place for awhile .
Best,
Phil
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to remember that your objective was to drain the swamp !!
to remember that your objective was to drain the swamp !!
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So...
Your Fathers day gift came early.
Congrats to your wife, to the little one
but for you well... really, what did you do again?
Your Fathers day gift came early.
Congrats to your wife, to the little one
but for you well... really, what did you do again?
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Since the second kid meant putting the motorcycle stuff aside for a bit, we're coping by getting another 2-wheeled toy! The change from 1 kid to 2 makes some of our old approaches no longer workable - I used to ride around with our boy on the back of my mostly-normal bicycle, but with 2 that's a no-go.
This bike is a long-tail cargo machine with a 400W electric assist. The small 20" wheels mean that the overall length is about the same as my other bikes, and it also means that the CoG is nice and low, even loaded up with ~70 lbs of kids in the back. It's also so adjustable that it can be ridden by either me (5'11") or my wife (5'3"). The compact size and the ability for us to share it were the deal-closers. The way that the Bosch assist works, you can basically choose to work exactly as hard as you want. The brakes are mental - I never knew that they made 4-piston hydraulic discs for bicycles, but this machine is rockin' a set from Magura.
It's so nice to be out and about, enjoying the summer, hauling the kids, and commuting by bicycle again. So far, the kids love it - which makes everything a bit easier. I was dead-set against an ebike for a very long time but they make these things for a reason - my wife or I can load this thing up with as much stuff as we want, plus the 2 kids, and go out together without worrying about what hills we may encounter - or holding up the other person riding solo. Consider me a convert.
This bike is a long-tail cargo machine with a 400W electric assist. The small 20" wheels mean that the overall length is about the same as my other bikes, and it also means that the CoG is nice and low, even loaded up with ~70 lbs of kids in the back. It's also so adjustable that it can be ridden by either me (5'11") or my wife (5'3"). The compact size and the ability for us to share it were the deal-closers. The way that the Bosch assist works, you can basically choose to work exactly as hard as you want. The brakes are mental - I never knew that they made 4-piston hydraulic discs for bicycles, but this machine is rockin' a set from Magura.
It's so nice to be out and about, enjoying the summer, hauling the kids, and commuting by bicycle again. So far, the kids love it - which makes everything a bit easier. I was dead-set against an ebike for a very long time but they make these things for a reason - my wife or I can load this thing up with as much stuff as we want, plus the 2 kids, and go out together without worrying about what hills we may encounter - or holding up the other person riding solo. Consider me a convert.
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Sharing family time and getting some exercise, excellent!
I have a sister that lives in Parkdale and she rides her bike everywhere. I am not as brave as you guys riding in Toronto.
I have a sister that lives in Parkdale and she rides her bike everywhere. I am not as brave as you guys riding in Toronto.
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Great new toy. But stop riding and watch the the game!
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