A garage find close to home


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Re: A garage find close to home

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All pics are correctly oriented on my eye-pad. Electrons do funny things.....
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Either garage is too small or we have too many bikes. Or Momma's car needs to go outside.

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Rick Pope wrote:All pics are correctly oriented on my eye-pad. Electrons do funny things.....
Electrons are funny that way! :D

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Re: A garage find close to home

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EMS wrote:
steve murdoch icoa #5322 wrote:On my laptop all the pics need to be rotated clockwise 90 degrees except for the last one.
The photo of your bikes lined up shows correctly.

Here too. I am not on a laptop. Regular pc.
Thanks for the info. I don’t know what I can do though, I’ve only used my iPhone and iPad for posting for the past 8 years so no lap top. Of course everything looks correct as I post, pictures are orientated correctly on the camera, then as I post them they look correct and as I look at them on every device.... and on the face book pages,,, weird
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Re: A garage find close to home

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It is not a big deal to me.
Don't see it often on this site but the pics that OVER-sized can sometimes be a pain.

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Re: A garage find close to home

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More progress, disassembled the alternator and found the clutch disc ruined with only 6,000 miles. Looks like something was inside the housing and ground the groves in them, no other problems with it. Good output. Replaced with newly ground dice. Cleaned and painted the housing. cleaned and reassembled the shocks, applied new shock decals,,,my home made shock compressor broke after many shock spring removal and installations though, back to the hardware store for new turnbuckles
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Retired, now my job is restoring old hondas!
Bike in the garage right now:
1979 CBX1000 red
1980 CBX1000 red
1981 CBX1000 prolink
1975 gl1000 blue
1975 gl1000 red
1975 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1975 gl1000 red
1976 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1977 gl1000 black
1977 gl1000 blue
1977 gl1000 black
1978 cb750f super sport
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Re: A garage find close to home

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That is a nifty spring compressor, Macguyver.

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Re: A garage find close to home

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steve murdoch icoa #5322 wrote:That is a nifty spring compressor, Macguyver.
:D
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1979 CBX1000 red
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1981 CBX1000 prolink
1975 gl1000 blue
1975 gl1000 red
1975 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1975 gl1000 red
1976 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1977 gl1000 black
1977 gl1000 blue
1977 gl1000 black
1978 cb750f super sport
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Re: A garage find close to home

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Looking at those alternator clutch plates, my guess is you have a bearing dragging. Spin the alternator by hand. Any noise or roughness? if so, even a little, replace the bearings. It's easy and cheap. Bearings can be sourced at any decent auto parts store, and are 6201 and 6203 sizes.
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Agree, Rick. Those plates aren't the worst I've seen, by far. They are not blue from overheating. But I would certainly replace the bearings and seal and carefully measure the spring for sag and shim appropriately.

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Re: A garage find close to home

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Rick Pope wrote:Looking at those alternator clutch plates, my guess is you have a bearing dragging. Spin the alternator by hand. Any noise or roughness? if so, even a little, replace the bearings. It's easy and cheap. Bearings can be sourced at any decent auto parts store, and are 6201 and 6203 sizes.
I’m waiting at this moment for a replacement bearing and oil seal to come in the mail!
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1979 CBX1000 red
1980 CBX1000 red
1981 CBX1000 prolink
1975 gl1000 blue
1975 gl1000 red
1975 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1975 gl1000 red
1976 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1977 gl1000 black
1977 gl1000 blue
1977 gl1000 black
1978 cb750f super sport
1979 cb750f super sport

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Re: A garage find close to home

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Rick Pope wrote:Looking at those alternator clutch plates, my guess is you have a bearing dragging. Spin the alternator by hand. Any noise or roughness? if so, even a little, replace the bearings. It's easy and cheap. Bearings can be sourced at any decent auto parts store, and are 6201 and 6203 sizes.
I also have a new spring and both small shims for the B plate and large for the A
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1979 CBX1000 red
1980 CBX1000 red
1981 CBX1000 prolink
1975 gl1000 blue
1975 gl1000 red
1975 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1975 gl1000 red
1976 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1977 gl1000 black
1977 gl1000 blue
1977 gl1000 black
1978 cb750f super sport
1979 cb750f super sport

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Re: A garage find close to home

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A bit confused - first, there are two bearings you need to replace, not just one. Second, you mention shims on both A and B plates? The drive plate, splined to the primary shaft should have a thick fiber washer and a thinner steel one. That is the stock set-up. You would add another steel washer for additional shimming needs (sacked spring, worn plates). There are no shims on the driven plate, just the washer and holding nut. Unless I'm missing something in what you're saying.

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Re: A garage find close to home

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Working with nils menton on shimming both plates evenly, with a small diameter washer on the shoulder behind the flat plate and the normal large diameter washer on the typical shaft. I have already replaced the shaft end bearing in the outer cover and I’m waiting for the 1st bearing under the three screw retainer behind the oil seal.
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Bike in the garage right now:
1979 CBX1000 red
1980 CBX1000 red
1981 CBX1000 prolink
1975 gl1000 blue
1975 gl1000 red
1975 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1975 gl1000 red
1976 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1977 gl1000 black
1977 gl1000 blue
1977 gl1000 black
1978 cb750f super sport
1979 cb750f super sport

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Re: A garage find close to home

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I'll not argue with Nils on that one, but can't for the life of me figure out why you'd want to try to shim the driven plate. The exact place in the housing where the two plates meet is immaterial. Shimming just the drive plate is straightforward and quite acceptable.

Dave

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Re: A garage find close to home

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daves79x wrote:I'll not argue with Nils on that one, but can't for the life of me figure out why you'd want to try to shim the driven plate. The exact place in the housing where the two plates meet is immaterial. Shimming just the drive plate is straightforward and quite acceptable.

Dave
yeah, agreed but nils has spent a lot of time on this and if it will help him out I’ll give it a go. Easy to remove!
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Bike in the garage right now:
1979 CBX1000 red
1980 CBX1000 red
1981 CBX1000 prolink
1975 gl1000 blue
1975 gl1000 red
1975 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1975 gl1000 red
1976 gl1000 sulfur yellow
1977 gl1000 black
1977 gl1000 blue
1977 gl1000 black
1978 cb750f super sport
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